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ABossy's avatar

“It should not be misleadingly portrayed as a struggle between democracy or authoritarianism.”

But the election is exactly that.”

I’m hearing this from other wise, intelligent and worldly pundits. I’ve respectfully disagreed with you Justin Ling in the past but not this time.

I can’t recall ever being so nervous about a US election. I consider myself a centrist and definitely not “woke”, but the trump party (I don’t think the old Republican party exists anymore) is seriously frightening. My stomach is in flip-flops. I can’t imagine living above an evangelical nation where women suffer the consequences of rape and sexual abuse. I see putin’s army of degenerates storming Ukraine unchecked, raping, killing, and carrying out putin’s genocide with the approbation of snotty, ignorant american isolationism. And I don’t like emotional commentary yet here I am.

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Justin Ling's avatar

There's been another piece I've been tinkering with (which I'll probably put out closer to the election) basically charting how, for a half-century, we've had every reason not to give in to pessimism. But that, I think, has made us incapable of imagining what 'bad' looks like, and unwilling to understand how quickly things go from good to bad.

It's a pretty dour thing to think about but I think it's something we've all got to turn our minds to, no matter what country you're in, and pretty quick.

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Donald Simmons's avatar

I had this exact conversation with a friend last night, she was realizing that all sorts of thing we just take for granted now could just vanish a lot quicker than we think, if we think they could vanish at all.

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ABossy's avatar

My brother tells me it’s historically 10 years. Ten years for American politics to subsume Canadian politics. We have our own christian right (or other religious fundamentalists), anti-science and anti-government people already expanding beyond the fringe.

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Beverly B's avatar

When I moved up here in 2009 I was shocked at how apathetic my Canadian coworkers were. "What's happening down there can't happen here" they said to me, and I said that they should stay vigilant because it will happen when they arent paying attention. Humans are humans, and the US and Canada are culturally extremely similar. They scoffed. I can only hope that they remember this and are less apathetic now.

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Beverly B's avatar

It's ok. Emotions are part of being a human being, and while they certainly can't be in charge of things, they are real and important. I am terrified too, and not ashamed to say it. I am a dual citizen and a Florida voter. I wish I could do more than cast my vote and donate a minute amount of cash. I have never felt so helpless in my life.

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