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Roy Brander's avatar

On the contrary, this is the perfect "razor" to shave off the difference between scientific thinking, and magical thinking.

Those who concede that vaccines, as a basic concept, have 200 years of success behind them, beat smallpox and polio, have saved millions of lives and taken almost none via side-effects - BUT, do say: "a new vaccine technology hasn't been tried widely, I want extensive testing before I take one" are thinking scientifically about long-agreed facts, expressing skepticism the vaccinologists would approve. They'd be eager to show you their data! They were skeptics going in, didn't come forward until they could prove it.

Those who think all vaccines are inherently unsafe are thinking differently from that. The vaccinologists would see no point in showing them data or any other argument, argument being useless.

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Randy Shank's avatar

You know what the difference between you and I is?

I don't feel the need to compel people to agree with my worldview whereas you do. That's the core of this whole thing. Who cares about anti-vaxxers or not? The core of the issue is compelling people to do something that they don't want to do, regardless of their worldview.

I'm not forcing people not to take the jab, but you want to force people to take it.

Just admit it.

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Mackenna's avatar

Randy "doesn't feel the need to compel people to agree with him" but insists everyone who doesn't agree with his stupid moronic ignorance is wrong. Using too many words.

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Randy Shank's avatar

I'm also not calling anyone who thinks differently than me "stupid, moronic and ignorant." Why do much animosity towards someone who disagrees? Why have you so much hate in your heart?

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Randy Shank's avatar

Hey, I'm not the one compelling people to do something based on faulty science that is wrong.

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Mackenna's avatar

Randy is just not very bright and I'm guessing he's a middle aged guy who got his polio and small pox shots in grade school. Now he's raving all vaccines are bad, including the ones that kept him healthy.

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Randy Shank's avatar

That's a good straw man. I've never said any of those things. But now you've just resorted to the typical "oh he's just a crazy anti-vaxxers. Disregard"

This is the problem with this whole thing. The assumption that anyone who disagrees is just a dumb middle aged guy. How incredibly "tolerant" of you Leftists. What a time to be alive.

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Randy Shank's avatar

"Magical thinking", yeah that's a good way to put it, shows how much respect you have for people who disagree.

Yet again, you're running on some false assumptions here. The idea that all vaccinologists agree on these vaccines (they don't), the idea that the entire medical community is unanimous (it isn't), and the "magical thinking" that scientists are even permitted to speak out on these vaccines without the risk of losing their jobs. That's the over magical thinking there.

But keep it up, buddy.

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