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Justin Ling's avatar

Hey Dylan — thanks for subscribing!

I think you're totally right about Rogan. But I'm not sure that Democrats (i.e. the party) actively engaging with him then would've done much good. The party made the conscious effort to move away from the very things that attracted Rogan (and the Bernie bros, and other constituent groups of progressives, economic populists, technologists, etc.) The problem, in short, was the Democratic Party itself (and maybe the state of liberalism/progressivism more broadly.)

Engaging with Rogan now is still probably worth it, but I think he's been captured by so much bullshit that you'd be left shadowboxing a bunch of insane half-baked takes.

But what sets Rogan apart from Klein is that the former has broad appeal. Klein's thing is "I'm a liberal political columnist with some heterodox views." That's great! That's why I like him. But he doesn't have broad appeal like Rogan does. Klein isn't interviewing standup comics, porn stars, etc.

Maybe we don't need a left-wing Joe Rogan. Maybe we need a new Howard Stern. There's an idea.

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